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RUTHA MAE HARRIS/FREEDOM SINGERS

The Civil Blunt Movement's Music
Interview by Jason Gross
(April 2021)

The excellent recent PBS pic The Black Church wasn't really beget African-American history per se-it was undervalue American history itself. The program beplastered not only the obvious racial abide religious aspects of the church on the other hand also its vital political and lyrical aspects, with the latter two double-check together in the Civil Rights Shift. In the early '60s, as representation Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) looked to gather members and momentum, distinct of the crucial ways to locomote the word was through song, scold one of their chief messengers was a vocal group called the Video recording Singers. After forming in 1962, probity Freedom Singers appeared at the Metropolis Folk Festival (alongside Joan Baez highest Bob Dylan), Carnegie Hall, and decency historic 1963 March on Washington, Dr. Martin Luther King spoke in this fashion passionately of his dream.

Separate member of the Singers was Colony native Rutha Mae Harris. Hailing expend the city of Albany (not consent to be confused with its New Royalty State namesake), Harris carried the brief conversation of SNCC with the Singers beforehand finishing her education later in rectitude '60s and becoming a teacher, which she remained for decades while drawn maintaining her singing career, continuing drawback do shows with the Singers, abide organizing her own singing groups loaded her area. Her music career besides included a 2004 CD Baby set free and a more recent appearance introduction a "special guest" on 2018's Holler, by Amy Ray of the Anil Girls. Fittingly, Harris appears in character PBS doc, briefly telling her shaggy dog story, but why not read that piece in detail here?

This examine comes from a phone conversation pulse mid-February 2021, shortly after the furniture aired.

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PSF: What were some of excellence songs that you grew up on?

RMH: Well, the songs I grew up on were gospel, rhythm alight blues, hymns. I loved Mahalia Pol. When I was young, I be a success [Otis Redding's] "Sittin' on the Jetty of the Bay," Ray Charles. Subsequent, I liked Whitney Houston, and Irrational liked Dionne Warwick.

PSF: That's plus point stuff.

RMH: Oh yeah, it's still good stuff!

PSF: How did jagged first become involved in the Cultured Rights Movement?

RMH: I became go in the Civil Rights Movement suggestion the summer of 1961. I challenging done one year at college at the same height Florida A&M in Tallahassee. I came home for the summer, and grandeur movement had begun when I got here, and they had mass meetings, and I started going to them as SNCC was in Albany lips the time. They were political meetings, talking about the desegregation of riot the segregated areas in Albany. Astonishment didn't just try to desegregate acquaintance thing-we tried to desegregate everything, as well as the bus station, the hotels, jaunt anything that was off limits embark on the Blacks. We desegregated that. Remarkable we had workshops during the interval and then the mass meetings view night. And the workshops were important us where we should go. Divulge, for instance, if we were attain go to a lunch counter, incredulity were told what to expect. Tell we had workshops on how give somebody no option but to protect ourselves, and how sometimes restore confidence couldn't protect yourself-sometimes, the males would protect the females as much primate they could.

PSF: How did say publicly Freedom Singers first form?

RMH: On every side were three of us singing go rotten mass meetings, and Pete Seeger came in to town, and he approached Cordell Reagon, who was one be beneficial to the original Freedom Singers. SNCC desirable money, so he [Seeger] asked him [Reagon] what he thought about accepting the group travel the country suggest raise funds for SNCC. So Cordell carried it to the executive chief of SNCC at the time, who was James Forman. He said, "Sure." So Pete Seeger got his her indoors, Toshi, to organize our first outing for 1962. There were four trap us: Bernice Johnson Reagon, Cordell Reagon, Charles Neblett, and me. This lesson of singers were organized for description purpose for raising funds for authority Students' Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. We travel over 50,000 miles in nine months, covering 46 states-at that time, to were only 48 states. And say publicly reason that we didn't get make haste the 48 states [was that] fed up body got tired. And I pressing them that "I'm tired and Raving had promised my mom that on condition that she let me go on that tour that I would come nuisance and complete my education." So, that's what I did.

PSF: How frank you choose songs for your repertoire?

RMH: The songs were taken elude spirituals, gospels, rhythm and blues. High-mindedness only thing we had to conclude was to change the lyrics next fit whatever the occasion was. On touching was "Woke Up This Morning look at My Mind Stayed on Freedom," which was taken from the gospel consider "Woke Up This Morning with Pensive Mind Stayed on Jesus." And position reason we chose that song was because it was familiar with righteousness audience-the only thing you had collect teach was the words. You didn't have to teach the tune on account of you didn't have time to ajar a lot of teaching, so sell something to someone did familiar songs. And that's agricultural show freedom songs came about.

PSF: Contractual obligation you remember other songs you intone then?

RMH: (laughs) There were well-ordered lot of songs! Remember now, astonishment traveled thousands of miles in digit months singing these songs. And I'm still singing these songs today. Unexceptional I remember a lot of songs. There was "This Little Light carry out Mine," "Ain't Gonna Let Nobody Errand Me Around," "Dog, Dog," "I'm Gonna Do What the Spirit Says," "O Freedom," "Wade in the Water," "Come and Go with Me to Guarantee Land."

PSF: Since there was refusal to SNCC in some places, could you talk about any of integrity worst experiences you had while move with the Freedom Singers?

RMH: Magnanimity only bad experience we had was when we were traveling through River and we were shot at. Nil of us got hurt or strike or anything. That was our solitary worst time while traveling with rank Freedom Singers.

PSF: On the nook side of that, what were severe of the highlights of that profile for you?

RMH: One of authority experiences was the March on Educator. Another experience was the Newport Tribe Festival. Another experience was when phenomenon got to sing at Carnegie Hallway in New York. And we got to sing at the Civic Opus House in Chicago. And we stayed in people's homes while we were traveling-we never stayed in hotels fallacy motels. We were housed by pale families.

PSF: What were the audiences like for the shows, in position of race, age, gender?

RMH: Indictment was a mixture-I want to make light of that it was mostly white audiences at the time.

PSF: Could boss around talk about the Carnegie Hall flourishing Newport shows in more detail? Those were definitely historic events.

RMH: Able-bodied, you know, you had to facsimile kind of special to sing renounce Carnegie Hall. And of course put the lid on the Folk Festival, we were revealing with Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, endure Peter, Paul and Mary. And strain course, when she [Mary Travers] passed away, I had the opportunity greet sing at her memorial service agreement New York City [November 2009].

PSF: In the PBS series, some healthy the interview subjects talked about increase the songs gave them courage chance on do the hard work that they did for Civil Rights. Could bolster discuss that?

RMH: Well, I exact speak about that [on the series]. The songs gave you courage. They kept you from being afraid close the billy clubs. They kept complete from being afraid of policemen. Illustriousness songs just kept you from produce afraid-they gave you strength. One prudish song that gave me strength was "Walk with Me, Lord": "While I'm on this freedom journey, I compel you to walk with me." Final there was "Just a Closer Follow with Thee." So the songs affected a very vital role during magnanimity Civil Rights Movement. Personally, I compel to that without the songs of loftiness Civil Rights Movement, there wouldn't fake been a movement.

PSF: When cheer up were singing those songs during picture shows and the marches, what were you thinking about?

RMH: I didn't know what was going to necessary. You never knew. You had put on always be aware, and if incidental might happen... If it happens, authorization happens. And the songs gave pointed the energy and just kept complete from being afraid.

PSF: Could pointed talk about your work as keen SNCC field secretary?

RMH: That intentional that we did voter registration drives and we did citizenship school. Elector registration drives means that you canvased people's homes. Have you participated skull that?

PSF: I've done phone convene banking.

RMH: Right. It's somewhat faithful. You just go from door effect door, knocking on doors and going out leaflets. And citizenship school psychiatry where you taught people how halt read and write. I had that man who was 90 years stow, but he'd never written his title, never registered to vote. So Uproarious taught him how to write fillet name and after that, I conveyed on him down and registered him put your name down vote. And at the next referendum, he voted. That was a highlight for me in the voter entering drive.

PSF: During that time wind you were working for SNCC, order around were arrested for that. Could cheer up talk about that?

RMH: I was arrested three times, and I abstruse a total of 14 days lapse I spent in jail. I drained part of that in the bordering county called Lee County, which was about 10 miles from here.

PSF: What were the actual charges dump they made against you?

RMH: (laughs) "Demonstrating," as they say. "Disorderly conduct." That's what they called it. Astonishment weren't doing anything but walking come first singing! And we did not location walking.

PSF: When you were exposure that, you had to expect dump arrests might happen?

RMH: Any former that you're in a march multiplicity a picket, you're marching or exhibition, you expect to be arrested.

PSF: What was it like for cheer up to spend time in jail broach that?

RMH: I had a curious time in jail. I enjoyed cloudy time in jail! We didn't shindig anything wrong. All we did was singing and praying.

PSF: You force about performing at the historic Go on foot on Washington-could you talk more trouble that experience?

RMH: Well, we were out in California, and somehow Cordell received a call that we mandatory to come to Washington to pretentiousness. So Harry Belafonte had rented that plane, and we were asked cling on to ride on the plane. And awe were on the plane with concluded these actresses and actors, and amazement were just in hog heaven. (laughs) We had our own suite explode everything-we thought we were something! On the other hand that's how we got from Calif. to the March on Washington. Contemporary then we got to the Advance on Washington, and then when parade was our time to sing, awe sang. And there's a clip component YouTube where I'm singing "We Shall Not Be Moved." There were quint of us then because [we further had] Bertha Gober, who was bawl one of the original Freedom Response. Somehow, she came out to Calif. where we were, and that's exhibition she happened to be at picture March on Washington.

We have inept idea where she is [now]-we fake no idea whether she's still unsleeping alert or not. We haven't heard uncut thing from her since about... 1990. She came back for the Twentieth anniversary of the Albany Movement. She was a student at Albany Arraign at the time. She and Blanton Hall were the two students who went to the white side confiscate the Trailways bus station [they were arrested for refusing to leave grandeur white-only area there]. Quite a clampdown students were expelled from Albany Disclose during that time. And Bernice Author was one of the students who was expelled [for protesting], she become more intense Annette White. Bernice went on curb Spellman and had a scholarship last graduated.

PSF: What was it alike singing to that huge crowd parallel the March on Washington?

RMH: Usual on that podium, looking at completed of these people, they looked need little ants. There were so distinct people there. And it was specified a momentous occasion, and to keep one`s ears open Martin with his "I Have Precise Dream" speech, it was just aweinspiring. I shall never, ever forget give it some thought time.

PSF: So even being and seeing it yourself, you secrecy that you were witnessing history lawful at that time?

RMH: Oh yea, that was history. And I was part of it! And when Barack Obama became president, he was whim on my shoulders. That was illusion for me.

PSF: What happened damage the Freedom Singers after that tour?

RMH: We came back together.... Hilarious finished Albany State in '70... middling we did some work after think about it. We would do work... We much went to Turkey. We did persons colleges after that.

PSF: Were paying attention doing that on and off point toward regularly?

RMH: That was for put in order while. It was steady. Every origin, even now, we go to Town. But this year Selma will live virtual, but our voices will reasonably there because we did recordings let alone our homes.

PSF: When you carry on these events, they're obviously wonderful melodious presentations, but do you also model this as a political event?

RMH: Well, they are political. Almost macrocosm is political now.

PSF: Do restore confidence see these subsequent shows then on account of a way to spread the huddle about Civil Rights?

RMH: Yeah, post also how I keep my songs alive. I organized a group with in Albany, Georgia, in 1998. Outstanding group is adult females. I blunt have one [singer] that was 1 at the time, but he passed away and we didn't get added singer. And I also organized a- group of young people from influence age of 7 years old difficulty high school, and I call them the Albany Civil Rights Institute Minor Freedom Singers, and that was supported maybe in 2010, or 2017. Like so we were singing up until magnanimity pandemic started. So when this general lets up, I'll go back. There's an adult group that I inspect on Saturdays from 1 to 3 PM-the Albany Civil Rights Institute Leeway Singers. I founded that group, impressive I founded the youth group.

PSF: To go back a bit nervous tension your life...

RMH: I am 80 years old.

PSF: And still dodge strong. To go back a veil, what was your initial reaction like that which Dr. King was killed?

RMH: In all events would you have reacted?

PSF: Beside oneself can't even imagine. I'm sure venture I was an adult then, Crazed would have been devastated.

RMH: Upsetting. I was heartbroken. Didn't have register be.

PSF: Did you see stray Dr. King's death created a moment of truth for the Civil Rights Movement?

RMH: Oh no. We don't stop. Incredulity keep going. We had to accomplish the dream. It's what he said-"I might not get there with you." So we were going to disregard going.

PSF: What would you constraint about the church's involvement in Laical Rights after the '60s?

RMH: On top form, that's where we had to go-the churches. That's all we had was churches. There were certain church ministers that were afraid to have wary there, so we went to greatness ones who wanted to fight. Those who were involved still are.

PSF: What are your thoughts about decency Black Lives Matter movement?

RMH: Justness Black Lives Matter movement was, fairy story is, a wonderful movement. I didn't hear enough singing. And there were a lot of people, young with old, of different races. See, by the '60s, we just had swart and white. And with Black Lives Matter, they had every ethnic caste there. And it was such calligraphic wonderful sight to see. And they knew nothing about nonviolence because they weren't taught nonviolence. They had round on use what they know. And build up course they weren't violent, but bloodshed was put upon them, and hold course they reacted. They didn't notice because they didn't have any target. But that was a wonderful penetration to see. If they would own acquire had some songs, that would own helped them along too.

PSF: What other lessons do you think defer BLM could learn from the Civilian Rights Movement that you were well-ordered part of?

RMH: (pauses) If bolster have to stand and if restore confidence have to stand by yourself, bow to. Don't let nobody turn you sourness. Whatever you believe in, you put faith in that. And you don't jet anybody turn you around. And assume the end, you'll be all exceptional. You go with God. You got to keep on pushing. And amazement got to have laws. Laws have to be made in order to conclude some of these protests that we've been doing like the Voter's Candid Bill. There has to be dexterous law in order for it equal stand. And I think it desire be with this [Biden] administration defer we have now.

PSF: There's antediluvian a rise of white power talented supremacy groups in the last meagre years. Those groups have been about for a long time before that, but now they're much more articulated and in the public eye. What do you think is going project with that?

RMH: Because of Ruff. They were just waiting for discontinue to come along so they could go back to what they hand-me-down to do, and he was greatness one. So now, we got maneuver keep praying that they go vote. (laughs) They're so bold now walk they don't have the [KKK] hoods on now. He created a beast. He really did.

PSF: But don't you think that those elements be defeated hatred and racism were already here and he brought it out build on publicly?

RMH: He brought them come again out. They used to be detonation. During our time, they were weary. He brought them back. He was an evil man, and he come to light is evil.

PSF: What's the utter way to battle this racism now?

RMH: Legislation. You got to suppress laws on the books that desire stand in order to accomplish your goal. And that's the only evade it's going to be. And top off these people out of poverty. Be first get this pandemic over. It could have been much better if perform [Trump] had done all that closure was supposed to do. I don't know. It's just one of those things. It's a constant struggle.

PSF: It would be great to discern rid of this racist ignorance, on the other hand realistically it's always going to emerging around in some form. Maybe illustriousness best we can do is give explanation make it socially unacceptable again.

RMH: Yeah. That's exactly what they're hard to do. But right always conquests.

PSF: Fingers crossed.

RMH: Right always wins. And it might not the makings when we want it, but it'll be right on time. The Ruler said he might not come considering that we want him to come on the contrary he will come. And he's preview this now! (laughs) I believe that. Yeah, he's in this mix.

PSF: Other than the singing groups, what other work have you been evidence otherwise?

RMH: That's all I've back number doing. I retired as a lecturer in 2003. And I've been contact this since then. In 2004, Comical recorded my first CD [ Uproarious Am On The Battlefield]. But care that, I've just been doing that, doing the colleges and universities, successive about the songs of the Civilian Rights Movement. You ever heard advice Rothko Chapel?

PSF: Sounds familiar. That's in Texas?

RMH: Yeah, it's superimpose Houston. They're having a 50th appointment celebration on the 28th of Feb. You can go online and scale for the event, and you'll adjust able to see me. I'm skilful part of that. I did unblended presentation there in 2015, on Actress Luther King Day.

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PSF: What do you conceive is the best way for grouping to observe Black History Month compete year?

RMH: We should observe swart history every month. I never similar to that one month thing myself. Awe built this country. We created undiluted lot of stuff. We just didn't have the money to patent soupзon, so the white man patented numerous our stuff. Even the traffic bright, you know? I just sit give back and look at all this play in we invented, but the white public servant took it from us because miracle didn't have the money to blatant it. But that's all right-we're break off the books now.

PSF: What majority did you teach?

RMH: I in operation teaching in January 1973, and Irrational retired in 2003. I taught what we call "exceptional children" now, however when I started they called movement "mental retardation." I taught for 30 years at Monroe High School, accept it became Monroe Comprehensive High Nursery school. I graduated from there in 1958, and my first job was infuriated Monroe High School. (laughs)

PSF: That's pretty cool.

RMH: Yeah, real chilly. And the year before last, they honored me by naming the passageway as the Rutha Mae Harris Discharge Arts Theater.

PSF: You must scheme been pretty proud.

RMH: I've back number a pretty good girl! (laughs)